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PostSubject: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:22 pm

http://wwe.thq.com/go/view/roster

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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:39 pm

Oh by the way, during the broadcast, Cory Ledesma said "Create-An-Arena!!"

Also, on the "Game Info" page, it also says "Create-An-Arena"

Create-An-Arena is in. Officially.

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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:42 pm

.....oh wait.

"You can not create your own stage in WWE'12. Create Arena focuses on the ring and surrounding area"



Ah.

Shit.

That kinda...sucks, actually. :/

Sails - Wind = Oh. I see. :/
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:45 pm

More info....

Melina and David Hart Smith are in the game. But weren't revealed.

"Just found out that 2 additional Superstars won't be revealed today bc
they are no longer with the WWE. We will reveal them on the website."
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:17 pm

Ok, the Stage thing isn't that bad I suppose.

Now it's being tweeted that Paint Tool can be used on everything else.

Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if the "HD Stages" don't have any Raw or Smackdown graphics on them and that they appear blank and Brand-less.

I'd rather the stages be blank and generic, (if they are) than say Raw or Smackdown on them. Hopefully.


Beautiful roster, though. Really, really good.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:20 pm

That makes sense in terms of them being in the game but not revealed because they aren't with the company any longer - then again, neither is Koslov, but he was revealed.

Nothing at all to complain about with that roster. I see no obvious omissions where I'm sitting here going "Oh wow, sucks that X isn't in the game" In fact, there are a few that are pleasant surprises - like Ryan, Riley, Cara, and Husky for instance.

As far as the Legends go, I'm delighted to see both the Road Warriors and Demolition in. Is it too much I'm hoping for Shawn Michaels in Rockers gear to go along with a Marty Jannetty now? The other legends make sense, and going by the fact that they've included Nash after just one appearance, it does make me wonder if DDP just might make it in this year.

I'm pretty sure we'll see Savage in the game as a later reveal.

As far as Create an Arena goes, I'm not that bothered that you can't create a stage, and I can understand why perhaps you can't with the scaling and mapping of the arena. Hopefully you can choose from some presets. But being able to customise the ring and ringside areas (hopefully with logos) still frees up some fantastic possibilities. So I'm fairly happy.

I actually pre-ordered the game tonight, before the announcement. I'm perfectly happy with that decision after this.

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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:22 pm

Hopefully there will be some stages in there that are generic enough so that they'll work. I'd be surprised if there weren't - or some preset "blank" stages.

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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:27 pm

The only omissions to the roster I can POSSIBLY think of... and i'd have to really stretch on these... (Some of these might even be DLC)

...are the Uso's, JTG, Jinder Mihal, The Great Khali, Brodius Clay, and Tyler Reks.

That's lliterally all I can think of that are missing from the current roster. And if those are the only omissions, it's a good roster indeed.

And...

wait....

Can it be true? DID I NOT SEE ALICA FOX??? Alicia Fox is not in the game?!?!

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PRAISE THE LORD. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:29 pm

NO MORE BOTCHY AXE-KICK!

NO MORE SHITTY PAM GRIER HAIRDO!!

NO MORE CHARISMA SUCKING VACCUM OF TALENT!!!

NO MORE GENERIC INSTRUMENTAL TIMBERLAKE KNOCK-OFF ENTRANCE THEME!!!!

Very Happy 'Tis a good day.


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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:31 pm

BTW, I notice Punk DOES have his new entrance video and theme music. This is good.

Incidentally, have they said what version of the game the shots on the website are taken from? Obviously they aren't in HD so I'm reserving judgement somewhat, but I have to say I am thinking that this year's models don't seem to have quite as much polish and detail as previous games.

Now if that's as a result of new modelling techniques to give more fluid and realistic animation and reduced clipping, and as a result the whole thing flows and plays better, and more realistically, I won't mind. They aren't bad looking by any means - and as I say, they aren't the final game running in HD and a top quality video feed so we shall see - but I do at this stage think its noticeable.

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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:34 pm

I didn't even notice Khali wasn't in!

I wouldn't mind the Usos being in. Couldn't give a toss for the rest.

I'm glad Regal made it in. Regal's awesome, and one of the nicest guys you will ever meet in your life. I want that guy to continue making money for as long as he wants to.

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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:37 pm

Oh idunnoiduncare. Razz I'm just escatic Alica Fox isn't in it.

I'm seriously gonna order a pizza and throw a party just becuase she's not in. Very Happy



But in all seriousness.... If I can be serious for a minute....

I have read Cory say that they have updated the build at least once more before they put together this Summerslam demo, so it's possible that some of the guys like Wade Barret that didn't have any mini-trons, and some of the guys missing some entrance attires may yet have those.

Personally, the only thing I notice lacking are some character faces are way too smooth and contain no wrinkles or skin textures. For example, Wade Barret, Alex Riley, and Alberto's faces look as smooth as a baby's butt. And they shouldn't. Especially Alberto and Barrett.

That may change. I think it will. But as you mention, even if it doesn't, i'm still fine with it.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:40 pm

Oh..


Sin Cara has his "mood lighting."

Only in 1 on 1 matches and it can't be turned off.

Well, at least they're accurate. Even if it is stupid as all hell in real life.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:46 pm

.........Oh I dunno, I kinda like it actually.

But which Sin Cara is in? The original one who has been on TV previously, or the guy who was playing Sin Cara at this week's Smackdown taping? Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:57 pm

I want Kane's "promo theme and promo lighting" in Story Designer, if that's the case.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:34 pm

Becuase everyone NEEDED to know....

"new drink cup weapon physics. Once you take a drink and spit at your opponent the cup rolls around the ring"

Most important. Thing. Ever.

I kid. lol. It is somewhat nice to know that, if for no other reason than what it means for all the other weapon physics.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:42 am

I dunno if DDP will make it in as a Legend. If this was an alternate reality where WWF was bought by WCW and this was a WCW game then yeah I'm sure he'd be in it, but after Page's less than notable run in WWF I can't imagine him being in as a Legend. Kevin Nash as well. He's not so bad, but he's no legend!
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:12 am

Kevin Nash is already in the game, though. Razz

He's been shown revealed with a video and everything.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:15 am

Yeah I know he's been revealed for use in the game, I watched that hour long SummerSlam Access video you posted yesterday and it mentioned it on there. That's why I threw in my 2 cents about Big Kev Razz



By all means add him in as a "current roster" character, but Legend is blowing Nash's trumpet a bit to hard, possibly? Or maybe he's just not old enough yet! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:17 am

ohh.

Sorry bout that, then. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:23 am

And Arn Anderson as a legend...... really? Who's on next years Legend list? The Brooklyn Brawler? :\
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:00 am

Nash deserves to be a Legend, IMO



Former Tag, IC, and WWE World Champ

First man to win all three belts in his rookie year

First man to win all three belts in the same year

Member of the infamous "Clique" that ruled backstage WWE politics in the early 90s

Founding member of the nWo, the most successful stable in wrestling history

Key member of the most successful angle in wrestling history

One of the key men to make WCW the number 1 wrestling company in the world

multi time WCW US, Tag, and World Champion

Former WCW Head booker



I think there's more than enough there, TBH.

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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:07 am

Some might say that his WCW head booking experiences are decidedly less than legendary. Razz

But all the same, they happened.

Honestly though, I think that he deserves it, due to his nostalgic status as Diesel at the very least.

Even if he wasn't in the WWE right now, just having Big Daddy Cool would have been right at home on the Legends roster along with guys like Vader, if that pesky TNA contract of Nash's hadn't kept it from being a reality for the last 2-3 years.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:59 am

Yeeeeah, ok. When you make a list like that I suppose I must concede.

That said, I've never been a massive fan of Nash's wrestling, or booking. On the microphone he was alright.

I didn't like him booking himself to the extent he did. People who won't give other people a chance like that really piss me off. And that Clique... Bunch of knobheads!

In complete fairness, Nash did provide entertainment in WCW most of the time, but Legend... I dunno.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:48 am

Oh I don't think he was any good as a booker, and he was certainly limited as a worker (he'd be the first to admit it), but purely from where he was positioned in the companies, and the things that revolved around him, he's more eligible than many guys who have gone in.

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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:50 am

True true, Dave. I can't argue with that.



Who do we all think is the least deserving Legend? (from any SD! game) I'll say Shane McMahon
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:13 am

Fred Durst. I will say that a million times.

Fred Durst was the WORST playable character in a wrestling game ever. And in case you didn't know about that, yes. That was really a thing that actually happened.

Apparently Fred Durst from Limp Suckit, demanded that he be unlockable and playable in one of the Smackdown games as compensation for letting them use his terrible music for Undertaker's entrance.

Massive Ego: For when your giant royalty checks just aren't enough.





By the way, I have to disagree with Shane McMahon. Call me crazy, but i've always kind of liked him. For a non-wrestler, he probably had the best moves and most memorable spots in WWE history. For a NON-WRESTLER that is.

For a Non-wrestler to be as over athletically as he was during his short run, was kind of amazing.

That having been said, I'm glad that his run, was, in fact, short. Seeing as he, in all honesty is not a wrestler and never really was, despite being a part of the active competing roster for a short time.

Say what you will about him compared to real wrestlers, but he was better than literally everyone else of his category. Among notable non-wrestlers that competed in a ring, like Carl Malone, Dennis Rodman, David Arquette, Snooki, Andy Kaufman, Jay Leno, Stephanie McMahon, and even Vince McMahon, he was the absoute best among that list.


Although as far as real wrestlers that were Legends in a video game and playable that didn't deserve to be in as much as they were, I'm not sure of any i'd really put. But if I had to choose one, I would probably say, just off the top of my head, maybe......... Doink The Clown?

But no, even then, honestly I think the Doink does have a certain legacy that kind of at least sorta wasn't that terrible to be in a game.


Now, if someone like the Gobbledegooker, Mantaur, The Goon, Bastion Booger, or Shockmaster ever made it into a future game, I would say them. Even though that would honestly, be hilarious still.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:26 am

Oh shit yeah I forgot about Fred Durst. Definitely Fred Durst for me too!



I also forgot all the wrestlers in LOWM... And I'd probably agree with Doink the Clown too. Added in because his character was so memorable more than skills and achievements, possibly? Razz
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:44 am

I believe Andy Kaufman was in one non-WWE game.


Just... no.


There is never any time in my life that I would ever want to have any hand in recreating Kaufman's "legendary wrestling career" in a video game.

And this is coming from someone that loved Man On The Moon, and Kaufman's life story.

But a video game is never somewhere that I want to experience this.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:59 am

Couldn't remember all the people who have been listed as legends but I doubt any were worse that Durst. Having said that, I'd laugh like a drain if they put David Arquette in a game as a legend.

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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 ROSTER REVEALED.    Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:10 am

I guess Andy K did have at least a sort of link to a wrestling career. Durst, on the other hand, is one of my least favourite people from one of my least favourite bands...so I'd pick him every time!
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