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PostSubject: Is the PG era ending?   Is the PG era ending? Icon_minitimeWed Aug 24, 2011 3:17 pm

Honestly, I think it is.

But it's coming to a very slow end. At least I thought so until yesterday when I bought a certain new DVD set.

I think that WWE obviously isn't going to have this be one of their overnight era changes, but are (and have been) just gradually phasing it out, so that the change isn't obvious to most.

Risque spots, promos and angles have been creeping their way back into programming, but the one thing that really put up a red flag for me, was one of WWE's most recent DVD collections. (One that I most recently bought the other day.)


"OMG!! The 50 most shocking incidents in WWE History!" was released the other day, and I picked it up.

Not only do they seem to be actively recalling these moments, but actually showing many of them in full.

But the DVD also seems to have this curious slant to it. What I mean by that, is that they have a lot of current WWE Superstars narrating these moments, but doing so with gusto, with many of them going on to say "HAHAHA... oh, it's a shame we can't do this anymore. Wouldn't that be great?" or "I'd love to get away with something like that today, too bad that's not possible anymore."

But they just keep saying this, almost hammering the point in. If they were trying to sweep it under the table, wouldn't they, at least be told to keep quiet and not keep saying this on the DVD, with the heavy nods and wink-wink's they keep giving?

And especially one comment that CM Punk left about the Tim White suicide sketches.

Yes. Those.

Those are on here.

The Tim White segments are shown, and then cut to both CM Punk and Dolph Ziggler laughing out loud at them, with Ziggler laughing and howling like a maniac at Tim White throwing himself into a fan, with meaty blood chunks coming out of the other end.

CM Punk then remarks "Those were hilarious. We need more of that today."

What surprises me is that most of the comments on this set that actually make it onto it, are of so many people like William Regal, Punk, and others dropping them like hints about as subtle as a 80 ton weight, of them wanting this stuff back.

It's almost like they're gauging fan reaction, or trying to remind their now kid-friendly audience of Tim White hanging himself, Brian Pillman pointing a gun at Steve Austin, Randy Orton being shoved into thumbtacks and Mick Foley being cut open across the face.

I've noticed the risque things creeping back in ever since The Rock returned, CM Punk's "Do and say what I want" rhetoric, and the rumors of Mick Foley returning.

But this set, and the wresters on the set repeating that they want more shock these days (and the release of this set in the first place), to me feels like maybe WWE is trying to get people ready for the return of edgy content, again.
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PostSubject: Re: Is the PG era ending?   Is the PG era ending? Icon_minitimeWed Aug 24, 2011 4:46 pm

Honestly, I also want it back.


Now, don't get me wrong.

I agree with what everyone else has said that edgy and offensive content is not what makes a show good.

But to me, it certainly dosn't make a show bad, either.

Just like the other way around, it doesn't matter if the show is PG, as long as it's well written, it can be great.

To me, it's just an element, and one that I like. I've always been of the mentallity that if you just mean to say "fuck"" than just say "fuck". Razz

Sure, if they went back to edgy content again, and the writing is bad, than that's not going to change that, and it in no way is a guarentee of quality, but at the very least, I have to say that I find these things entertaining on their own merits and always have.

It wouldn't magically make everything better, but it is a nice side-dish, and I've always kind of had a problem with self-censorship, anyway.

That and I just think that it's time. Time for a shake-up, and sticking with any one thing for too long isn't any good. These things go in cycles. I can understand that the Attitude Era died out once.

But now I think it's time for this PG-Kids Cena era to go since it's been around long enough, and the cycle can go to the next slide-change after the last 5 years of this. Razz

Just as i'm sure they'll reach a point 5 years after this possible change, and i'll like them to go back to PG, maybe. Who knows.
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PostSubject: Re: Is the PG era ending?   Is the PG era ending? Icon_minitimeThu Aug 25, 2011 12:54 am

We will never see a complete return to the days of the Attitude era. You won't see sex and violence on tat sort of level again.



These days WWE is too tied in with advertisers, merchandising agents, and various other organisations to take those sort of risks. Its also trading as a public company so its answerable to more people. He can't afford to have major companies withdrawing their brands from WWE advertising.



Also, back then, Vince could take a risk with the networks on the grounds that he had such massively strong ratings than no network would want to lose him. Now that the ratings are at more sensible levels he has less elbow room to argue.



So Vince is now slightly more constrained than he perhaps felt then. I think he's also personally less inclined to take risks, as he's not fighting his corner like he was during the Monday Night Wars which spurred on the WWE Attitude era.



All that said, I think you're right that we are seeing a gradual move away from the ultra kid friendly back to more edgier stuff, and that is, I think, because in general standards have been relaxed by the TV standards organisations, both in the US and the UK. You can get away with more on terrestrial (network) TV now than you used to be able to, and shows like Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, the Wire, 24, and others have really pushed the envelope of what you can get away with on Cable. Until recently, the word "C**t" was utterly banned on UK TV in any format. Now its not. Mainstream BBC comedy shows are liberally using "fuck" now as long as its shown after 9pm, and lighter swear words are making their way in before 9. Nudity is creeping in as well. Again, stuff like Game of Thrones has people wandering about full frontal left right and centre.



Fair enough, these shows don't carry PG ratings in the US, and would be shown after 9pm (8pm on cable) watershed in the UK, but as they come in at the top of the allowable tree, it means more filters down and more is now allowed at PG. So Vince may find he increasingly has more room to introduce some of the elements the WWE used to have.



While I have previously said I don't think rating matters if the show is written well, I do think having an edge to the show will help. And some of the more recent stuff has been excellent.
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